Read a great exchange today

"As a scientist one of the main reasons I will NEVER vote Republican, if they do not change, is because of their denial of good science and their bastardization of the scientific method.

Until Republicans stop attacking evolution and climate change, which are based on good science, they will NEVER get my vote. You just have to start dealing in the real world to come up with solutions to our problems.

Under Bush, ideology set the policies and they tried to make science fit their ideological conclusion. Good science is dispassonate, objective and open minded.

Good government policy should be based on good science utilizing the scientific method."

Of course there was a conservative response:

"In the light of the multitude of left-wing scientific myths and hoaxes, it would be nice for leftists to admit that their side is as guilty of anti-scientific thinking as anyone else.

LEFTIST GREAT BARRIER MYTH:
http://www.goldendolphin.com/eco/IPABackgrounder17-1.pdf

LEFTIST DDT MYTH:
http://www.junkscience.com/ddtfaq.html

LEFTIST GLOBAL WARMING MYTH
http://icecap.us/index.php/go/joes-blog/comments_about_global_warming/

http://www.cfif.org/htdocs/legislative_issues/federal_issues/hot_issues_in_congress/energy/Scientists-Shatter-the-Myth-Scientific-Consensus-Global-Warming.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZBP-JYzQKg

INCESSANT LEFTIST MYTHS ABOUT GUNS:
http://gunowners.org/fs9901.htm
and
http://gunowners.org/fs0401.htm

The Left-wingers' belief that right-wingers oppose science is achieved by left-wingers' refusal to embrace scientific evidence to the contrary."

Well of course this guy got buried alive:

"You forgot to mention that persistent liberal nonsense about the earth being round."

"Bad science bought and paid for by your right wing organizations is not science."

"We'd produce photos from space (which would be called fakes), scientist explaining the movement of the stars (which would be junk science), and all sorts of physical science experiments that confirmed a round earth (which would be dismissed as a grand conspiracy by brainwashed "leftist").

Scientists are not debating global warming... skeptics are. Skeptics who get their funding from oil companies, who have a vested interest in the status quo (and not paying for the mess they create)."

Well they could still get away with one positive talking point, right?

"They were never prohibited from doing embryonic research. MILLIONS, if not billions, has been pumped into embryonic stem cell research by both state governments and private foundations/corporations/individuals.

People on both sides of the issue need to be educated about this. Federal money is entirely UNNECESSARY in funding for embryonic stem cell research."

I DON'T THINK SO!

"'Federal money is entirely UNNECESSARY in funding for embryonic stem cell research.'

Federal money is entirely UNNECESSARY for invading noncombative nations and taxcuts for the rich, but that didn't stop you, now did it?"

Anyway, the president lifted Bush's federal ban on stem cell research today. Sweet, sweet science had a chance to taste victory at last. In your face Wakefield.